Subject	It's about crank horse power, not RWHP
Posted by	F8IZHIS on December 02, 2001 at 9:44 PM
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In Reply To	come on everyone knows traction has nothing to do with posted by FANTAZ on December 02, 2001 at 09:21 PM
Message	I don't think anyone will disagree that automatic trannies "typically" lose more HP through the drive train than manual trannies. But this can easily be avoided by locking the torque converter 1:1, it will be just like a manual tranny since it won't have the slip that an auto tranny normally has. I think everyone knows that auto trannies are faster since we can buld boost at the line. Also, I think everyone who has an understanding of how the auto tranny works realizes that it will lose more unless you lock it 1:1.
Follow Ups	here we go, for those of you who didn't believe me the first - FANTAZ 21:06:06 12/02/01 This is what I have to say - F8IZHIS 21:13:42 12/02/01 come on everyone knows traction has nothing to do with - FANTAZ 21:21:39 12/02/01 Yes traction has a lot to do with it. The better the - Spongerider 21:39:15 12/02/01 Why does everyone always have to make excuses? - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 21:46:11 12/02/01 is this going to turn into an east coast vs west coast... - TAGURIT(NJ) 21:51:36 12/02/01 West side!!!!! :) (n/m) - Spongerider 21:53:43 12/02/01 east coast has the two fastest daily driven Zs in the countr (n/m) - FANTAZ 22:03:14 12/02/01 West Coast rules - F8IZHIS 22:01:25 12/02/01 Ass! :) (n/m) - Spongerider 22:14:08 12/02/01 Everyone knows all the "real" fast Z's are on the east :-) - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 22:02:40 12/02/01 yup yup:) (n/m) - Chris (NJ) 00:21:06 12/03/01 LOL, So you agree but then you disagree with your self - Spongerider 21:52:02 12/02/01 I agree with Shawn, and I disagree with - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 21:57:47 12/02/01 I just showed how thing are different with his Dyno - Spongerider 22:12:24 12/02/01 before this gets heated, do me a favor and - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 22:18:32 12/02/01 hehe. naaaahhhhhhhh!!! (n/m) - TAGURIT(NJ) 22:26:19 12/02/01 hello, traction has nothing to do with trap speed, again (n/m) - FANTAZ 22:25:09 12/02/01 Hello, I think so even in third gear we were all going - Spongerider 22:42:15 12/02/01 Reread it and it's cool with me how about you? :) (n/m) - Spongerider 22:24:26 12/02/01 it was never uncool for me! (n/m) - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 22:29:01 12/02/01 my post was directed at - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 22:38:43 12/02/01 I got it check your E mail. :) (n/m) - Spongerider 22:44:02 12/02/01 check your mail (n/m) - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 22:51:08 12/02/01 traction has nothing to do with trap speed! (n/m) - FANTAZ 22:05:11 12/02/01 that is SO NOT TRUE! - StEaMyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:25:02 12/02/01 This reminds me of the longest burnout.. - Jack B. 01:34:37 12/03/01 $100 on Shawn :) (n/m) - got rice? 23:59:59 12/02/01 you are right in the fact that traction is the 60', but - FANTAZ 21:49:16 12/02/01 Yea. To bad we can't all meet for a day of runs - Spongerider 22:00:59 12/02/01 isn't that what I said at the start of all this? (n/m) - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 22:04:14 12/02/01 I know but not to you to FantaZ. :P (n/m) - Spongerider 22:15:58 12/02/01 you could NOT be further from the truth man - StEaMyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:34:30 12/02/01 It's about crank horse power, not RWHP - F8IZHIS 21:44:08 12/02/01 yes and no - FANTAZ 21:57:42 12/02/01 torque converters - Marshall 22:19:20 12/02/01 true, but we don't really have that option - FANTAZ 22:37:45 12/02/01 true - Marshall 22:44:17 12/02/01 I have a question for you - Marshall 22:48:45 12/02/01 I think the better run will happen - F8IZHIS 22:52:17 12/02/01 this is something that i have posed to a few people - FANTAZ 23:37:15 12/02/01 hehehehe - StEaMyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:31:02 12/02/01 and yet the auto still runs faster (n/m) - Z 6370 (Fab Hoe) 21:45:04 12/02/01 I think the reason is really quite simple - Marshall 22:08:04 12/02/01 the powerglide is one of the most efficient - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 22:11:08 12/02/01 this is true, powerglides are the most efficient - FANTAZ 22:17:18 12/02/01 thank you (n/m) - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 22:20:43 12/02/01 Hmmm, I've heard they have high loss% - Marshall 22:26:58 12/02/01 you are right about that, they do have a lot of slip due to - FANTAZ 22:34:19 12/02/01 that's what i always thought too (n/m) - Jefe 22:58:14 12/02/01 Re: here we go, for those of you who didn't believe me the f - kZtt 22:13:54 12/02/01 i have numerous times and the car ran 11.7@126 (n/m) - FANTAZ 22:21:07 12/02/01 Okay :) (n/m) - kZtt 22:27:04 12/02/01 and dont forget he has a NA diff, which also increases power - Jefe 22:36:01 12/02/01 Hey Shawn, I'm the one that was driving so I can tell you... - Mike (La Canada) 23:08:42 12/02/01 I believe I was that someone else :-) (n/m) - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 23:14:34 12/02/01 i'm not taking anything away from zhound car - FANTAZ 23:18:54 12/02/01 Keep up the good work man! Any low 10s in the future? (n/m) - timz 23:22:17 12/02/01 With the whole At to MT tranny's issue - Mike (La Canada) 23:29:00 12/02/01 all of the above check arnel's site (n/m) - FANTAZ 23:33:27 12/02/01 another very important aspect of my trap speed - FANTAZ 23:45:17 12/02/01 I understand what you've said and what you're saying now - Mike (La Canada) 00:28:14 12/03/01 He's been on Overboost.com, UrbanRacer.com numerous times - got rice? 00:03:43 12/03/01 why would he need 8 or 9 point cage - StEaMyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 00:10:17 12/03/01 even though he may not break 9.99 he'll break 135 mph - got rice? 06:05:47 12/03/01 See, he wouldn't even say he had TD-05's - Mike (La Canada) 00:23:19 12/03/01 If I have some custom work to make the fastest street Z, - timz 23:20:42 12/02/01 I won't keep it a secret - F8IZHIS 23:29:00 12/02/01 Don't speculate like that - Mike (La Canada) 23:33:29 12/02/01 I think he meant after the fact - Playboy 23:51:37 12/02/01 Yes, but not the custom stuff> - timz 23:37:14 12/02/01 Yes, I will - F8IZHIS 23:55:51 12/02/01 i would yes (n/m) - StEaMyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 00:13:01 12/03/01 ok cool, whats the secret sauce?? hehe (n/m) - TAGURIT(NJ) 14:07:39 12/03/01 What the hell do you have to gain? - Jack B. 01:37:47 12/03/01 Thank you. Finally people are starting to come around (n/m) - 96-2+2TT(NYC) 23:29:27 12/02/01 You're not giving it away for free - Mike (La Canada) 23:32:31 12/02/01 some people are just that way - StEaMyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 00:08:15 12/03/01 Your delivery seems a bit abrasive>>> - SirpriZ 00:45:26 12/03/01 Same power? I'm I reading this properly? - TwinTurboPete 08:49:08 12/03/01 interesting debate but i gotta go with the 5 spd (n/m) - NISSAN_300ZXTT 10:30:17 12/03/01
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